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First - 3 of the 6 comments are agreeing with you, so I don't see how you are getting pummeled by the sunshine pumpers, and not one person compared the player Roddy to the player Ager. They only compared what was going on here (on this board) while Ager was being built up and not getting playing time....meaning they compared the situation.

Aren't you doing exactly what your getting angry at 3 (yes, when you posted your comment only 3 people had disagreed with you) people for? Your questioning Fish's statement, and they're questioning yours....but they're out of line for doing so?

Finally, as to the topic at hand, one huge thing you are not taking into the equation.....and it is actually something mentioned in Fish's donut, is the level of competition Roddy has faced in comparison to all of these other rookies people are mentioning (from Blair to Lawson, Buddinger, or whoever). They all played in and against elite college level competition. Meanwhile, Roddy has played at the equivalent of semi-high level high school ball. That's not the same thing....not even close. As I've mentioned in other threads, Roddy essentially needs to be looked at as a player coming straight out of high school - as that is the level of competition he has played against, as well as the level of team he has played for. If you look at him that way, he's about where he should be - other than Lebron, pretty much none of the guards from high school made much of an instant impact, especially on playoff level teams.

In short, it's not fair to compare his progress to pretty much all of the rookie's people are comparing him to because their situations are completely different.

All that said, as I've said before, I do wish he would have gotten into the game against the Wizards. He'd shown he could play with Arenas (at preseason intensity, at least), and the guys we had out there were obviously struggling. I don't see the harm in giving him at least a few minutes in that situation. Still, this is only one game. I strongly doubt Blair is going to average 16 pts and 11 rebounds this year......just like I strongly doubt Roddy won't get some playing time as the year goes.

staub1212 wrote:

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ditto ditto ditto!!
thanks for saving me the time to type all of this out, you're a good man charlie brown.

froggy wrote:

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md wrote:

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First - 3 of the 6 comments are agreeing with you, so I don't see how you are getting pummeled by the sunshine pumpers, and not one person compared the player Roddy to the player Ager. They only compared what was going on here (on this board) while Ager was being built up and not getting playing time....meaning they compared the situation.

Aren't you doing exactly what your getting angry at 3 (yes, when you posted your comment only 3 people had disagreed with you) people for? Your questioning Fish's statement, and they're questioning yours....but they're out of line for doing so?

Finally, as to the topic at hand, one huge thing you are not taking into the equation.....and it is actually something mentioned in Fish's donut, is the level of competition Roddy has faced in comparison to all of these other rookies people are mentioning (from Blair to Lawson, Buddinger, or whoever). They all played in and against elite college level competition. Meanwhile, Roddy has played at the equivalent of semi-high level high school ball. That's not the same thing....not even close. As I've mentioned in other threads, Roddy essentially needs to be looked at as a player coming straight out of high school - as that is the level of competition he has played against, as well as the level of team he has played for. If you look at him that way, he's about where he should be - other than Lebron, pretty much none of the guards from high school made much of an instant impact, especially on playoff level teams.

In short, it's not fair to compare his progress to pretty much all of the rookie's people are comparing him to because their situations are completely different.

All that said, as I've said before, I do wish he would have gotten into the game against the Wizards. He'd shown he could play with Arenas (at preseason intensity, at least), and the guys we had out there were obviously struggling. I don't see the harm in giving him at least a few minutes in that situation. Still, this is only one game. I strongly doubt Blair is going to average 16 pts and 11 rebounds this year......just like I strongly doubt Roddy won't get some playing time as the year goes.

The bolded is maddening to me. When he was drafted Donnie reported by Fish and others as well said he would be a DAY ONE contributor. We also saw in SL what he thought of all those elite college players. He only posted a 34 point game and received further accolades from several scouts. He was ranked by several scouts and columnists coming out of SL in the top 10 rookies. He got an honorable mention from NBA.com for the rookie to most likely make an impact this season for their teams. He avged 19ppg in the SL against theses elite colleges players, and top euros. I am sure he would done just as well defensively as freaking Terry, Kidd, or Barea did. We have been told by Donnie recently in a Stein article that he would be a ROTY candidate this year if he played on another team. Lets go through some great rookies from last year. Westbrook, Rose, Lopez, Lee, Chalmers, Mayo. Are you telling me that these guys are not better than or would have help this team last year. I am sure I am missing others that are better.

I was as impressed with this kid as I was Curry, Lawson, and other PG's in the draft.

Bytheway Blair was the 37th pick not the 47th pick.