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Gunner Posts: 1613 (07/03/09 07:18) DB Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Assuming Kidd stays and Gortat isn't matched... How about Howard and Williams for Richardson (works on RealGM), and then use the Stack chip to get a signed-and-traded Marion at $7 mil per? Then use the BAE on Quisy. Talk Bass into staying (spending more of Cuban's money). Then trade Damp for Chandler (works on RealGM) to save NO some big bucks. Kidd-JJB-Booboo Richardson-Terry Marion-Quisy-Wright Dirk-Bass-Nivins Gortat-Chandler-Hollins The success of that team really depends, IMHO, on how good Booboo turns out to be, and if Gortat can provide a genuine offensive threat so that the Mavs aren't playing 3-on-5 on offense. Q: What's even lower than Josh Howard's basketball IQ? A: The basketball IQ of the de facto GM moranic enough to believe he's not only minimally useful, but even untouchable.
Hot Kidd		#1	[-]
Gunner Posts: 2791 (07/03/09 07:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Why do Toronto take Stack for 2.5m when they could just let Marion walk? Assuming we give them 3m the make 500k
Ricochet		#2	[-]
Gunner's Mate Posts: 1043 (07/03/09 07:24) DB Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I like the idea.. but no to Chandler
Scott4theMavs		#3	[-]
Gunner Posts: 1614 (07/03/09 07:26) DB Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hot Kidd wrote: Why do Toronto take Stack for 2.5m when they could just let Marion walk? Assuming we give them 3m the make 500k Tip them a second-rounder. They get 500k and a second-rounder for nothing. Q: What's even lower than Josh Howard's basketball IQ? A: The basketball IQ of the de facto GM moranic enough to believe he's not only minimally useful, but even untouchable.
wordsmith		#4	[-]
Squire Posts: 126 (07/03/09 07:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If you include the second rounder they might bite. Us being in a different conference would probably help too. I think you can do better than Chandler with Damp.
1techsan		#5	[-]
Sublime Pirate of the Royal Secret Posts: 24575 (07/03/09 07:44) DB's Mr. Moose Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Chandler is always injured _____________________________________________________________________________ Chaos, confusion, panic, disorder & hysteria, my work here is done. - I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it. Groucho Marx.
jumangi		#6	[-]
Swab Posts: 23 (07/03/09 07:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I don't think Chandler is "always hurt", he has injuires along the way, but so do a lot of players. Here is the number of regular season games he has played in his career each season: 71,75,35,80,79,73,79,45. Games missed each season: 11, 7, 47, 2, 3, 9, 3, 37 So he's basically had two different seasons that he missed a whole bunch of games.
jcl249		#7	[-]
Deckhand Posts: 35 (07/03/09 07:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Why do we trade Damp I'd rather keep him to defend the bigger guys. Then trade Terry for Outlaw, WEbster. Saves us money so we have at least enough to offer a max contract to someone in 2010. Who wouldn't want to come to that team.
miles berg		#8	[-]
Ship's Captain Posts: 10462 (07/03/09 09:08) DB's Mel Kiper Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Why not just trade Stack, Geoge, & S. Williams for JRich and simply keep Josh? Id much rather have JRich/Josh @ SG/SF then JRich/Marion. Vs Detriot 38 points, 9/15 FG, 20/24 FT, 5 rebounds @ Atlanta 33 points 9/15 FG, 13/14 FT, 10 assists @ Utah 34 points, 13/17 FG, 8/13 FT, 6 assists, 4 rebounds @ Phoenix 47 points 14/25 FG, 17/17 FT, 8 assists, 7 rebounds Vs Dallas 41 points 14/25 FG, 5/9 3PT, 8/8 FT, 13 assists @ Indiana 29 points 9/16 FG, 11/12 FT, 11 assists, 5 rebounds + Game winner
Scott4theMavs		#9	[-]
Gunner Posts: 1617 (07/03/09 09:13) DB Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	miles berg wrote: Why not just trade Stack, Geoge, & S. Williams for JRich and simply keep Josh? Id much rather have JRich/Josh @ SG/SF then JRich/Marion. Yeesh, that makes one of us. Why not throw away the Stack chip instead of trading Josh? Because I want the Mavs to have a chance to compete seriously, which ain't happenin' with Howard throwing inbounds passes. The man is dumb as dirt in terms of BBIQ. My love for the Mavs begets a desire to see JHo traded for value. Q: What's even lower than Josh Howard's basketball IQ? A: The basketball IQ of the de facto GM moranic enough to believe he's not only minimally useful, but even untouchable.
TXBamanut		#10	[-]
Gunner Posts: 2778 (07/03/09 09:23) DB Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Scott4theMavs wrote: Assuming Kidd stays and Gortat isn't matched... How about Howard and Williams for Richardson (works on RealGM), and then use the Stack chip to get a signed-and-traded Marion at $7 mil per? Then use the BAE on Quisy. Talk Bass into staying (spending more of Cuban's money). Then trade Damp for Chandler (works on RealGM) to save NO some big bucks. Kidd-JJB-Booboo Richardson-Terry Marion-Quisy-Wright Dirk-Bass-Nivins Gortat-Chandler-Hollins The success of that team really depends, IMHO, on how good Booboo turns out to be, and if Gortat can provide a genuine offensive threat so that the Mavs aren't playing 3-on-5 on offense. I'm okay not trading for Chandler.... I also would rather keep Josh than a broke-down ol Marion...(Am I really saying this?)... If for nothing else than it keeps more of the core the same... Kidd - JJB - Boo Boo JRich - JET Howard - Quisy - Wright Dirk - Bass Gortat - Damp - Hollins Wait a second... I won't cry if they trade for Chandler... "All those people who complain OR defend the MBT will make or break their arguments based on what we do with Stack. We MUST get a starter for him...we MUST move him before training camp, and we MUST get a good fitting piece with him. We need a pure shooting 2 or a post scoring 5, and nothing else is gonna do." QUOTED from Anwar's sig* who was quoting Fearless - it was just too true to not repeat it.*
TXBamanut		#11	[-]
Gunner Posts: 2779 (07/03/09 09:27) DB Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Although Scott...I really think to make this work... They need a scoring PG who can guard small PGs to play alongside Kidd, and let Kidd guard the 2 guards. Felton or someone like that. "All those people who complain OR defend the MBT will make or break their arguments based on what we do with Stack. We MUST get a starter for him...we MUST move him before training camp, and we MUST get a good fitting piece with him. We need a pure shooting 2 or a post scoring 5, and nothing else is gonna do." QUOTED from Anwar's sig* who was quoting Fearless - it was just too true to not repeat it.*
wordsmith		#12	[-]
Squire Posts: 127 (07/03/09 09:33) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Scott4theMavs wrote: miles berg wrote: Why not just trade Stack, Geoge, & S. Williams for JRich and simply keep Josh? Id much rather have JRich/Josh @ SG/SF then JRich/Marion. Yeesh, that makes one of us. Why not throw away the Stack chip instead of trading Josh? Because I want the Mavs to have a chance to compete seriously, which ain't happenin' with Howard throwing inbounds passes. The man is dumb as dirt in terms of BBIQ. My love for the Mavs begets a desire to see JHo traded for value. In essence you're trading Josh for Marion. I'm all for trading him, but hopefully we can get a better player than Marion. The 3 is probably the easiest position to fill with a talented player.
Scott4theMavs		#13	[-]
Gunner Posts: 1622 (07/03/09 09:38) DB Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	wordsmith wrote: Scott4theMavs wrote: miles berg wrote: Why not just trade Stack, Geoge, & S. Williams for JRich and simply keep Josh? Id much rather have JRich/Josh @ SG/SF then JRich/Marion. Yeesh, that makes one of us. Why not throw away the Stack chip instead of trading Josh? Because I want the Mavs to have a chance to compete seriously, which ain't happenin' with Howard throwing inbounds passes. The man is dumb as dirt in terms of BBIQ. My love for the Mavs begets a desire to see JHo traded for value. In essence you're trading Josh for Marion. I'm all for trading him, but hopefully we can get a better player than Marion. The 3 is probably the easiest position to fill with a talented player. Any suggestions for this potential small forward? My thought with Marion was an above-the-rim athlete to catch Kidd lobs who was as solid as Howard or moreso on defense. I am open to corrective criticisms that Marion can't do that anymore - I'm thinking of the Suns player from '05. Dudes get old. Q: What's even lower than Josh Howard's basketball IQ? A: The basketball IQ of the de facto GM moranic enough to believe he's not only minimally useful, but even untouchable.
Scott4theMavs		#14	[-]
Gunner Posts: 1623 (07/03/09 09:43) DB Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I guess the basic point of this thread is that if the Mavs are able to keep both Gortat and Kidd, there are a lot of possibilities for a strong offseason. Hope springs eternal - Cubandonnie, Cubandonnie, he's our man, if he can't do it... Q: What's even lower than Josh Howard's basketball IQ? A: The basketball IQ of the de facto GM moranic enough to believe he's not only minimally useful, but even untouchable.
wordsmith		#15	[-]
Squire Posts: 128 (07/03/09 09:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Scott4theMavs wrote: wordsmith wrote: Scott4theMavs wrote: miles berg wrote: Why not just trade Stack, Geoge, & S. Williams for JRich and simply keep Josh? Id much rather have JRich/Josh @ SG/SF then JRich/Marion. Yeesh, that makes one of us. Why not throw away the Stack chip instead of trading Josh? Because I want the Mavs to have a chance to compete seriously, which ain't happenin' with Howard throwing inbounds passes. The man is dumb as dirt in terms of BBIQ. My love for the Mavs begets a desire to see JHo traded for value. In essence you're trading Josh for Marion. I'm all for trading him, but hopefully we can get a better player than Marion. The 3 is probably the easiest position to fill with a talented player. Any suggestions for this potential small forward? My thought with Marion was an above-the-rim athlete to catch Kidd lobs who was as solid as Howard or moreso on defense. I am open to corrective criticisms that Marion can't do that anymore - I'm thinking of the Suns player from '05. Dudes get old. Marvin Williams, Wilson Chandler, Al Thornton, Andre Iguodala, Rudy Gay, Caron Butler, and Gerald Wallace. I underlined the players who it would probably take more than just Howard to get.
bagstros		#16	[-]
Stable Hand and Court Jester Posts: 6 (07/03/09 10:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	What about Stack, George, and Williams for JRich and then trade Damp and Josh for Igudola and Dalembert?

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