just wanted his name on the top of every Mavs fan minds!
Not excepting Mavs to get him because he is a risk, but who knows.
Not excepting Mavs to get him because he is a risk, but who knows.
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CJ Miles...CJ Miles!
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Gunner Posts: 2065 (06/27/08 04:13) DB Gunner |
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Pirate Posts: 454 (06/27/08 04:17) DB Member |
yep id much rather have the sure things like eddie jones and devean george
if we are going to suck ass, i want to suck with miles, antoine wright, etc |
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Gunner Posts: 1313 (06/27/08 04:21) DB Mate |
I'd throw the whole MLE at him. That may be overpaying for him but (IMO) the Mavs have to overpay to get guys.
"Where's your license?" "Oh, you mean my pilot's license? That's out back in the Cessna. Or perhaps you're referring to my license to kill. Revoked. Trouble at the Kazakhstan border. I could give you the details but then I'd have to kill you, which I can't do because my license to kill has been revoked." |
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Gunner Posts: 1939 (06/27/08 04:42) DB Head Badger |
With our limited amount of options, we have to gamble to get better. I'd rather throw the money at young guards with potential (Miles, Childress, Vujacic, Azuibuike) than to get another solid contributor of the bench. And given our track record with "battle-tested veterans", this is a no-brainer. |
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Pirate Posts: 104 (06/27/08 05:09) |
stuck on automatic wrote: I'm on board. In fact, sign O'Bryant to the veterans min, and then use the MLE on Miles. Time to roll the dice. Diop is a "sure
thing", but we need risks.
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Gunner Posts: 2482 (06/28/08 11:35) DB Veteran |
The Jazz did extend the qualifying offer to Miles, making him a restricted free agent and giving them the ability to match any offers.
I believe this means if the Mavs do make an offer, the Jazz get 7 days to match. So if the Mavs were to make Miles their number 1 priority, offer on the first day of free agency, then the Mavs would have whatever chunk of the MLE they're using tied up until the Jazz match. Worse case scenario, the Jazz end up matching anyway (which is typically what happens if another team makes an offer), and the Mavs are left on the outside looking in as other teams sign the MLE free agents in the 7 day window. |
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Gunner's Mate Posts: 356 (06/29/08 12:07) |
The idea that a team making an offer to a RFA is stuck on the sidelines while all the other teams scoop up all the desirable free agents is very much out of
date.
1. You can continue to talk to all the other free agents during that 7-day window, if you like. There is nothing that precludes a team from asking a desired free agent to wait just in case, or to make verbal backup offers. 2. You can even try to woo them with an offer predicated on sign-and-trade, if need be. 3. Summer signings go all the way into August, so a 7 day interlude isn't a big deal. Only a moderate percentage of the signings happen right up front. 4. There's nothing lost by the player who signs for the MLE in a week or two rather than a day or two - so agents will shop for the best team fit for their client, not just for the first offer. 5. When you make an offer to a RFA, every agent knows that (a) the old team might match, and (b) if that happens, you will have money and be looking for a different player to spend it on. It's no secret you might be back shopping, with money to spend, in 7 days, and it's a buyer's market where a team looking to spend is on every agent's speed dial. So in other words, if the Mavs want Miles or any other RFA, just make an offer and hope he signs it. If he's matched, you probably haven't lost opportunity elsewhere because it's a buyer's market. |
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Gunner Posts: 2066 (06/29/08 08:06) DB Gunner |
It looks like the Jazz really want to keep this kid.
I really want to overpay for this guy. If we offer 3 years $10 will they match? It sounds like they might. 3 years $12 million is what the Mavs should offer for their starting 2 guard the next 10 years. Sign Elson as the backup center 1 years $1.5 million. |
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Gunner's Mate Posts: 377 (06/29/08 08:33) |
Let's face it guys the only major signing is going to be Diop. Why do you think they brought in all these shooting guards for the summer league? There
won't be money to burn on a good SG in free agency.
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Gunner Posts: 2067 (06/29/08 09:39) DB Gunner |
If they sign Diop and nothing else, I except the Mavs to finish 8th or 9th in the West.
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Gunner Posts: 2483 (06/29/08 10:00) DB Veteran |
DLordOfBasketball wrote:That all being said, as best I can tell, only one team bothered making an offer to a restricted free agent last year (Miami to Charlie Bell). It was matched. The NBA changed the waiting period to 7 days from 15, and it seemed to have no effect on teams behaviors. |
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Gunner's Mate Posts: 357 (06/29/08 11:49) |
DaMavs02 wrote: It's true that teams haven't been chasing very many RFA's. Last season I think there were more than you recall yes it was still only a few that
got offers. (Milicic? Hayes? Mo WIlliams? Bell? Those are the ones I think of off the top of my head.)
But the reason in my opinion has nothing to do with the 7 days. It has to do with the market.
You have a buyer's market, where there are too many free agents being chased by too few dollars. So tons of players are available at BARGAIN prices.
In contrast, to get a RFA, you'll have to OVERPAY to motivate his team not to match, and you'll be overpaying for many years. That causes teams to
try to get those players not via an offer sheet, but rather via a sign-and-trade, or to look elsewhere. Pietrus and Varejao were two examples from last summer
caught in that web.
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